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Jan 16 07 5:07 AM

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Well I've found all these videos on your tube I only got to page 14 so theyr'es probably a heap more that really arn't suitable to house piggies " Permanently " in. Like humans guinea pigs do get bored and with boredom in a small cage with nothing to stimulate their little minds come things like behavioural/psychological problems ( bitings/chewing cage bars/excessive squeaking/fighting with cage mates ) and with boredom also comes emotional problems such as depression yes piggies can also suffer from depression and loneliness just like humans. With a small cage a guinea pig will not receive much exercise and this in turn can cause health issues such as your guinea pig becoming overweight and they are also more prone to arthritis/stiff joints later in life when they age from the lack of room for movement. Guinea pigs need room to run around when they have a big enough cage they will often " popcorn " around which is little leaps and flicks in the air while a piggy runs about their cage...this is a sign that your piggy is happy in it's surroundings. The benefits of a large enclosure for your guinea pig are endless. With a large cage also comes a cleaner cage...if a cage for two guinea pigs is less than a metre in size you're looking at a heck of alot more work for yourself as the cage will become dirty within only a day or two...if you have a larger cage both your piggy and yourself benefit from cleaner surroundings in the long run....male guinea pigs are more prone to fighting with each other in small surroundings. Male guinea pigs do like and need their own personal space. Above is a paragraph on just a small example of why guinea pigs need large enclosures ( more than a metre in length for two piggies ).
Guinea pigs are naturally herd animals that like to roam they would never " choose " to live in a tiny box and quite simply it is not in the guinea pigs best interest to keep them in a cage as small as one.

Mistreatment of a guinea pig isn't just about bedding/diet and handling it's also about how a guinea pig is housed...

Below are some videos taken from ' You Tube ' which are good examples of what not to house a guinea pig in ' permanently '. Some of these cages may be ok for temporary/quarantine enclosures.

A guinea pig housed on it's own in a small petstore cage. The fact the guinea pig does not have a friend of its own kind only exagerates any boredom/loneliness the guinea pig would be experiencing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJq_eHCGkgk

Guinea pigs housed in a small pet shop cage and also walking around on bare wire...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45PsArjlANw

Single guinea pig housed in a small cage...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZyDrTInDew

Single guinea pig in tiny pet shop cage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTbUecELUkU

Baby guinea pigs housed in a petshop overseas in a small glass fishtank. Fishtanks should never be used for housing guinea pigs they provide minimal air circulation in the enclosure in turn this can cause ammonia build up in the enclosure which in turn can cause respiratory infection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKpYXdACN7o

Another guinea pig sits in isolation in a small cage. No hidey houses or tunnels etc for stimulating the mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMvTY3M2FE

Three guinea pig males in a cage...cage chewing/biting is a sure sign of boredom or lack of things for the guinea pig to chew on e.g. hay. The cage itself is hard to tell the size from the photos but this is just an example of the behavioural problems guinea pigs can pick-up being housed in small enclosures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvkrHvGWs6c

If anyone feels any of the above movie examples are fairly reasonable and should be removed from this post please let me know...if anyone would like to add a video to the video post on innapropriate housing for guinea pigs, please feel free to.

Jess

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Jan 16 07 1:10 PM

And they get worse the more you view...

box size cage with a single pig in it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YIzHnWdQo
Many guinea pigs going nuts in a TANK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut4PcVEzlkQ
Highly disturbing...surely noone is this cruel to put their guinea pigs in a container the size of an ice-cream container???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6Est5fn9IU
Another tiny box like cage with a single guinea pig in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0VLnV10bzA
Overcrowded tiny cage with guinea pigs inside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnqiHIDQOso
No words...luckily this person was kind and replaced this cage with a c&c cage....this is a perfect example of just how bored a guinea pig can get inside one of these box sized cages - guinea pig doing laps to try to stimulate its imagine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwK9rwNGRxE

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Mar 26 07 6:24 AM

I have posted comments on alot of these videos- I havent seen one yet that I approve of.. people like this should not have them as pets.. and as for the ones going nuts at feed time, they only go this crazy if they dont get fed enough- looked like the poor little babies were starving.
Ugh,. people like this really make me MAD!

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Mar 26 07 6:27 AM

Mish, one of mine goes nuts at feeding time, but she is a very hyperactive piggy! As for those videos, I haven't watched them all but I agree that these people shouldn't have animals.

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Mar 27 07 1:17 AM

Hmm, I just watched the video. I definitely agree that the piggies don't look overly healthy - they are kinda skinny, and their overcrowded tank is just awful. But, the fact that they are going nuts like this at feeding time doesn't look unusual in terms of how my pigs act - mine often do pretty much exactly the same thing and they are well-fed little fatties!

I guess everyone's pigs act different, but their appearance and housing do disturb me a lot.

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Apr 15 07 9:56 AM

My piggers don't beg for food, because I ALWAYS make sure that they haven't run out. My friend told me once that the way to get them to beg for food, is to not feed them...

I was disgusted at this comment


Of all the videos I have just watched, I know that some of them are fair dunkum and thats simply idiotic owners not knowing any better about proper cage-size requirements. So I guess its up to us to educate people...

Also, consider this (I hope this is true for the sake of the piggers), the very very small enclosures might have been a temporary thing while the owners clean out the bigger one...

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Apr 15 07 10:02 AM

Also, consider this (I hope this is true for the sake of the piggers), the very very small enclosures might have been a temporary thing while the owners clean out the bigger one...


Is a nice thought huh...hoping that some of them were aswell or that some were just for the video...

Jess

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Apr 17 07 7:02 AM

this video is very sad to watch I just wanted to pick the poor pigs up give them some little houses and a decent size enclosures and give them some FOOD. Poor things they don't want an orange rind they want a proper meal. The atmosphere these pigs live in is not only too small but would be so boring for them I'd say those two fight with each other a bit as a result...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv-Sk7oKY60&mode=related&search=

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Oct 1 08 3:36 AM

I watched most of those that you posted Jess, pretty sad. This may be totally off topic but my husband bought 4 packets of the grids the other day and I made a huge pen that takes up the whole lounge room and the girls started chewing on the grids. They had plenty of hidey holes, tubes, hay, vegies and room. So WHY did they chew it like the piggies in these videos?

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Feb 3 09 8:21 AM

Hannah wrote:
I watched most of those that you posted Jess, pretty sad. This may be totally off topic but my husband bought 4 packets of the grids the other day and I made a huge pen that takes up the whole lounge room and the girls started chewing on the grids. They had plenty of hidey holes, tubes, hay, vegies and room. So WHY did they chew it like the piggies in these videos?


Pigs don't always chew because they are bored and hungry. Some do it because that's just what g/pigs do. It is in their nature.

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Feb 3 09 10:50 AM

Actually Hannah, I had some young foster girls a couple of years ago. I put them in a floor pen to give them a chance to really run around and they freaked out.

Maybe make the pen smaller to begin with and then gradually increase it by a couple of grids at a time?

Jeni

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Feb 12 09 10:55 AM

I just went through all of these vids and was thoughroughly disgusted at how ignorant and careless people are. my guinea pigs live like royalty compared to these poor little guys.
Thanks Jess.

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Jul 17 09 10:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/user/havsumtea#play/all/uploads-all/0/-KcXjMjCae8 - thats a bit crazy also. Too bad she couldn't get out or couldn't breath. Got someting in her eyes up her nose.. ugh/

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Jul 17 09 9:37 PM

I havn't watched ALL the vids but some of them provide information on the side like "guinea pigs were only in this cage for the purpose of taking video so no nasty comments please."

Obviously they are still good examples of bad housing but a few of these people dont deserve to be slandered.

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